Board Thread:Hosting Game/@comment-30105631-20161223222406/@comment-26111094-20161225160348

ChickenPieNuggetz wrote:

Minecraftstyle09 wrote:

ChickenPieNuggetz wrote:

Minecraftstyle09 wrote: Well, I am going to say this... You guys seem like you are preparing to kill or save lives... You know, if any of you happen to die, who in the world is going to bring justice? I understand you guys want powerful roles, but someone has got to choose the role that will keep this society from going to hell! 1. Cops are cops. They'll probably stop someone from dying from a threat.

2. A detective doesn't do much to help the society. WOW... Are sure about that? What if... Just saying, there was a murderer among us and the cops couldn't identify because the narrator wasn't informed they were planning to murder someone?

'''The narrator would have to know. '''

See, Cops can be fooled. Plus, if the cops die... Think about this for a second, someone wouldn't kill unless they were trying to be the last one standing. So, therefore, Cops are only really effective in an immediate threat that is nearby and detectives are good at identifying a threat that still lingers, but has already struck.

'''I mean, isn't it better to STOP the threat? Rather then let him murder someone, then call him out. '''

Plus, another thing, "You have a good eye, and notice things more about your enviroment then others." Meaning, this can also be a scout class! Therefore, can also prevent deaths from traps, able to track people down, notice little things off as well that Cops can notice to(Just not the same things, maybe something like... You notice a small bloodstain on so and so's clothes.)

'''This is why we need everyone to have a unique class. I'm not dissing the Detective class. In fact, I like the class. '''

"You are good at analyzing evidence and blood types, and are an expert at forging evidence." Meaning! Since I can identify murderer's a lot easier! What if cops turn corrupt? They are the most capable killers of this group by direct means.

'''In the DRs, I haven't killed ANYONE. Why would I start killling now?'''

I am the most capable killer by indirect means! I could easily turn corrupt too... Which means... If there is a crowd and I really dislike you... You are done for.

'''I can't wait for your guilt to increase like mad. And I would know you try to kill me. Cop's Ability.'''

The most important part of society is keeping order, which needed is a detective. Someone has to get rid of the threats, plus, THIS MAP IS HUGE! You really think a cop is going to hear your cry miles away and somehow rescue you in time? No, that's unrealistic.

'''So that also affects you. You can't just suddenly find a murder and easily find out the murderer. '''

So, say that again... say, "A detective doesn't do much to help the society."

I'll say it differently: The therapist does more then you to help the society. Agreement to #1 CC: Most likely will put it together, so True...

Disagreement and counter to #2 CC: '''I am saying, Cops aren't superheroes, okay? It is better to stop the threat, but Cops can't prevent the aftermath. Because Cop's ability is only useful when someone is planning something bad or doing something bad. Plus, Cops can frame easily and saying, "Oh, so and so's body language is off! Let's jail/execute him!" So, can I, but I cover that later on.'''

Confusion cleared at #3 CC: '''Okay, cool! Sorry for misunderstanding you!'''

Disagreement to #4 CC: '''Power corrupts and absoulute power corrupts absolutely. (Sorry, since you are annoying me the #BarelyAnyEvidence! I will do the same to you here.'''

Disagreement to #5 CC: '''Maybe you should learn more about guilt... Have you heard of Playstation Syndrome? Yes, its where people who use drones and use them to kill people feel almost no guilt because it's on a screen and they feel they are playing a game. Even though I may feel guilt from getting someone killed by a crowd and have a guilt increase... However take this in mind, One, its a crowd, its not entirely my fault(Classic thinking from Firing Sqaud, 4 get blanks and one gets the real thing and they suffer less guilt.) Two, after each execution of a murderer, I would move away from the soon to be killed and look away(Closer you are to killing the person, the more guilt you get). Three, sure, I maybe the biggest cause of your death, the most evidence... But I am not the one pulling the rope around your neck, they are. Which is why, I would suffer from not much of guilt! Then, your Cop counter you claim, depends upon the narrator's view of bad, killing in general could be bad! Plus, who in the hell is going to believe you unless you have a good alibi and some piece of evidence you didn't do it! You could be lying, just trying to get out of it!'''

Disagreement to #6 CC: '''In fact, my class is the best at finding a murderer and murder! Due to my great eye, I am really sure I can notice a few things that are off and track down the murderer and murder. The wheels of justice move slowly, but grind exceedingly fine.'''

Disagreement to #7 CC:'''Really? Let's see the Therapist try to figure out a murderer. Let's read their second skill. (You are able to tell what people are thinking via talking to them. The more you talk to them, the more you begin to figure out about their thoughts.) So, let's see here. A therapist can find morals, personality traits and goals. Useful in interrogations. However, funny thing about the therapist... They can frame someone too. Yes, the Cop can easily frame someone else for murder via body language, the Detective can frame via false evidence, and last, the Therapist can frame via falsifying others goals. However, the Detective, can be seen as Truthful if they have stumbled upon the scene with at least two other people and they saw that no evidence was falsified. Now, you may say, "The Therapist isn't made to find murderer's compared to a Detective!" Alright then, if that's what you say then that means, the second skill is practically useless compared to the Detective... Meaning the only advantage it has over the detective is making people feel less guilt and insanity and no insanity gain. It's needed, yes. However, so is the most reliable source for finding a murderer. It's because all that Cops and Therapists are really the equivalent to claiming in ToS is "I am Medium and that someone said so and so is Serial Killer, hang him." If there is a detective around, people are going to want evidence they can see, not trust people off of what they say because one mistake, one framer, one wrongly executed or jailed, and a murderer still on the loose? That's going to kill faster then Insanity or guilt ever will.'''